Agreed . . . this is why I try - *tryyyyy* to make sure that any meat that I eat is organic/humanely raised. But at the same time, I'm totally guilty of buying conventional meal/dairy when money is tight. I'm definitely guilty of supporting animal cruelty. I used to be a vegan, but it wasn't good for my health (I already have digestive/health issues, and unfortunately it just made me very, very sick); after I went back to eating meat and animal products, for the longest time, I still wanted to cry out of the guilt I felt for doing so. But in the end, as @Artemis so eloquently said earlier (woman, you are tremendously well-spoken), taking and killing is kind of the only way to survive, even if you ARE a vegan/vegetarian.In my opinion, the fur industry is cruel.
The concept of fur is similar to that of leather and meat, thus I can understand why it doesn't faze most people. What bothers me are the methods and conditions the animals are kept in.
I was just reading this post and wondering whether I'm the only person who feels like fur looks really tackyNot to offend anyone, but first and foremost I find fur to be absolutely horrible looking and I always associate it with rich Russian "wifes" strolling through Vienna's inner city and a lifestyle that absolutely disgusts me (that consequently comprises fake fur, too).
That being said, if one is ok with eating animal products and wearing leather, then it's kind of weird to be totally against fur because of ethical reasons. I think some people believe it's chic to call themselves animal lovers and underline that with being against fur. I mean it's pretty easy to avoid and can be replaced by fake fur relatively authentically, while leather is almost everywhere and eating meat is hard to give up for most people.
A red line for me are skins of animals that are threatened to become extinct. I get that rarity might make something more attractive, but is it really necessary to contribute to the extinction of a rare species just to serve one's vanity?
I don't want to fight at all but just want to give a different perspective. I also grew up on a farm and never felt comfortable with (my grand/parents) breeding livestock. There is just something very inherently cruel to me to decide about every aspect of another being's life. I also think that it's a very daring assumption that animals "should be glad because they get food etc." because they wouldn't even exist (and therefore, not suffer) if farmers wouldn't breed them. Of course, an animal is probalby not able to have such complex thoughts, but I personally would prefer not to exist than to live in a prison my whole life.*grew up on humane animal farm*
Our herd would not even exist (each individual animal), would not have been bred, born, given safe pasture, and veterinary care for years, if they did not provide a value to my family and local community. It can be a symbiotic relationship. If you think a wild coyote has a better life than a domestic dog, you've never seen one--they skinny and covered in mange. (I'm tempted to dump my personal collection of coyote pictures.)
Maybe animals kill each other - because they need to, or just for fun, or for sexual power. That doesn't mean that we as humans need to do it. We can totally live without breeding animals, that's a fact. There are a lot of arguments which say that our planet would profit from it, too. If they are entirely valid, I don't know, because the world is a complex place not made for easy solutions. But most of these arguments at least make some sense.It may be [insert current year] but we still haven't managed find a way to create something from nothing. The animals eat each other, sometimes they even kill each other for sexual power and status. Animals like goats and pigs deforest naturally. Plants choke each other out. Forests have to be cut down to grow soy beans (a short stubby bush) for your tofu and vegan processed foods. Blah, blah Mufasa speech, circle of life.
Here I totally agree with you. Not eating/wearing animals is not the magical solution and even if you're vegan, you need to think further if you really care about humans, animals and the planet. I like that you brought the example of almond milk
You're right. We should really all just go nude. Maybe fatties will eat less too bc they'll be self conscious. Less food = less waste. Win win winIt's 2017, why the fuck are we still using animals for any reason? Like it's just unnecessary, selfish and ignorant at this point now
I'd really like to see some, if you or others aren't too busy. I'll amend my stance if there's a better way. I was a vegetarian for 10 years and a vegan for one and had to come to an omnivourous conclusion, with my doctor. It went something like: if you want to continue eating that way for ethical reasons, rather, humans do not have the right to use animals in any way no matter how benevolent or malicious, you are sacrificing your health. So then you get into that weird discussion of the hierarchy of life--is my life less, more, or equal to that of an animal's? I prefer to just be respectful and only take what I need (from humane sources with environmental impact in mind) and nothing more.We can totally live without breeding animals, that's a fact. There are a lot of arguments which say that our planet would profit from it, too. If they are entirely valid, I don't know, because the world is a complex place not made for easy solutions. But most of these arguments at least make some sense.