Discussion in 'Fashion Industry' started by 71000, Oct 3, 2013.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you, jackass! Those parody shirts are really annoying. They don't do anything for the world aesthetically. Hot Topic should sell them (I kinda like Hot Topic sometimes ) All it says is that you can't afford the brand but want to look like you know about fashion and are smart. That makes you a prat. Just save up for pret-a-porter or go vintage. Over hipsters.
I especially loathe those Comme des Fuckdown shirts. At least Feline was quite cute.
I do agree that it ain't Laurent without the Yves, though. I just won't wear a shirt that says that.
I mean I love YSL but I can rock the shit out of some Saint Laurent.
This so ridiculous, I can't believe he severed a 15 year business relationship over soemthing so trivial. I mean, the shirt is awful (I kind of hate parody fashion shirts) but the larger issue is that YSL was once so directional, and now it seems to be desperately obsessed with maintaining the image of the brand.
hate those fake designer logo/sayings too but
could say the same about hedi
People who wear those kind of shirts are annoying. But not as annoying as Slimane's whiny attitude. Everytime he is criticized he complains, complains, complains. Of all the innovative, creative designers who are actually doing exciting things everyone is paying attention to Hedi Slimane ruining an iconic fashion house, Kanye West ranting about how nobody likes his designs and Cara Delevingne being an attention seeker. It's always the same annoying thing.
Also, Saint Laurent is an overpriced eyesore.
damn it I closed my browser when I finished writing my response, too tired to re-write.
I thought these shirts were clever, ironic and funny. SL needs to get over themselves.
To be honest I absolutely love his collection, I just wish it was not under Saint Laurent- the designs are great but not as an extension of YSL... I'm still so unhappy they changed it to Saint Laurent and completely redefined the brand image The old Yves Saint Laurent was classical, special and exceptional in every way. The fact that they kept a part of the name while abandoning completely the tradition and changing style is just awful. Under any other brand name I'd love the clothes, but right now they only annoy me because of the brand.
As for overprices... high fashion is always overpriced, whether it is Chanel, Dior or Saint Laurent.
Same. I even thought of buying one when I heard about it it's quite funny and shows well what a lot of people think about the new Saint Laurent. I feel like the fact that they overreacted in such a way to a silly little joke on tshirt is only making Saint Laurent's new reputation even worse.
I guess that, yes, Hedi's collections might be appealing to the modern, younger, edgier consumer and yes of course it's expensive for the brand name, but Saint Laurent is ridiculously overpriced for its quality.
One Saint Laurent polyester jacket that is barely even wearable is worth $61,000. You could buy about 20 beautifully designed Rick Owens jackets of great quality leather with that money.
And let's not forget the $68,000 dull and simple floral babydoll dress that looks more Zara than YSL. What could you get instead for 68 K? 13 maxi Chanel flap bags, or 10 Christian Louboutin stilettos with embedded crystals, or 64 beautiful silk blouses from Fendi, or 5 stunning Oscar de la Renta feathered and crystal-embedded gowns, or 106 Miu Miu cashmere and silk-blend tops, or 4 of Vera Wang's most ornate and detailed wedding gowns, or 5 Gucci wool silk coats, or 85 iconic Hermès scarves...
I understand if someone likes Hedi's designs, but he charges in the price range of haute couture for some prêt-à-porter that reminds me of something you can find on the racks of Forever 21.
Where did you find these prices? I've been to SL recently and didn't see anything that crazy, I even checked website now to confirm- http://www.ysl.com/mc/shop-product/femme.
Did I miss something?
S/S 2013. The jacket was available online in the British store.
F/W 2013. The price of the dress was reported by Style.com
But these were very limited (one dress and persumably similar number of jackets), and they did not appear randomly in stores but were exceptional- and runway pieces always cost a lot, so this number is not really that shocking- every other HF brand does it, http://racked.com/archives/2013/05/02/behold-the-most-expensive-dress-ever-sold-on-netaporter.php , it's just they usually don't end up in stores but in the hands of private buyers and the prices are kept quiet. So this wasn't really THAT overpriced, a gross majority of his pieces available online and in shops are ok price-wise (expensive but normal for HF brands).
(sorry, spamming the thread )
What I mean is that the price is way too high for the quality. Chanel and Dior might charge a lot, but that's usually justified because the materials are finer, they have a strong construction, a lot of time and money is spent designing and creating that piece. But I simply don't see that for Saint Laurent.
That Dolce & Gabbana dress is worth it imo, I personally loved F/W 2013 and the intricate details make those $50,000 a lot more reasonable than a babydoll made of mostly synthetic fabrics for $18,000 more. Prada sells coats worth $140,240, but they are made of luxurious fur, are superbly designed by one of the most iconic living designers and I bet they will last for generations to come. One of those is basically a family treasure.
I just cannot understand why put such a high price on goods that aren't of the best quality the brand provides. Saint Laurent has wool coats and jumpsuits with embedded Swarovski crystals for a bit less than $4,000 and nice silk blouses for less than $2,000 on their more commercial collection. So the fact that they charge more than $60,000 for their pieces of lower quality is above me.
There must be something special about the jacket if they tagged this price on it and chose it from all the rest. Anyway, clothing prices are artificial- it doesn't matter if it's silk or polyester, because the real cost of production is by far, far lower than the price- even if it cost 200 dollars to produce it (and tbh I have yet to hear about a jacket that cost that much to produce in a factory somewhere in China or Bangladesh, where all the brands including HF produce), it doesn't really matter if the price is 1000 dollars or 2000, because it's still so much higher than the real cost, so it's all artificially created- you're overpaying anyway if that makes sense. Unless it's made out of alligator or something similar, the prices are always unjustified. It's not really about the material at the point, but about the fact there are only one or two pieces in existence and it can even be considered an investment (great excuse haha). Anyway, I get your point and I wouldn't buy it either, but if you're paying tens of thousands of dollars on a piece of clothing, it's never really about being reasonable.