Kendall Jenner
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Isn't that just a pear?
So bizarre to me that the 'natural' shape I've been fighting my entire life is "in" and people are resorting to fat transfers. Grass is always greener. Also people are fucked.
Isn't that just a pear?
Although I don't understand why anyone would purposely want to give themselves bigger hips/thighs, I have to admit I actually kind of like that the pear shape (my 'natural shape') is "in". I've always hated my thighs and would kill to have stick thin legs without having to survive on very low calories to do so. I feel like my entire life the pear shape has been the shape that has been associated with negative connotations - eg. I remember an ad on the radio from a few years back promoting some weight loss/health product that began with "hands up all you pear women out there". There was never an ad for apple shaped women. There was even a class at my gym dedicated to pear shaped women with a focus on hips and thighs. Again, no classes for women with other 'shapes'. Always made me feel bad for being pear shaped. Maybe its just be but I feel pear shaped women also seem more self conscious about their bodies?
Nice to see the pear shape is no longer viewed so negatively by the mainstream
I'm sorry to hear you felt this way for so long.
However, there's this silly thing with marketing - it creates issues and problems. Even though it was never a legit problem and women didn't even feel self-conscious about having pear-shaped bodies, weight loss pills and gym promoters created this problem. Of course, it happened so long ago we couldn't feel it happening (although I can't pin-point the exact time) and now it came in our lives as a perfect norm.
Another example of such marketing-created problem is thin lips, it started way before the Kardashian-Jenner clan. Lip plumping lip gloss! Full-lip lipstick! Before and after photos everywhere. It was a very ingenious idea of some marketers, they made women self-conscious about their lips and in order to fix their "thin lip problem" they were open to buy lipgloss and lipsticks who enchanted their lips.
Of course, I might be wrong and this cannot be applied to every market and every country (but most of it) however as a marketing specialist myself, I've heard a lot of stories and ideas like these.
Next time you feel self-conscious about something, just think about it - is someone trying to put this idea in my head? It's sad, but we live in a consumer society. Businesses are doing a lot of ethically and morally wrong things, just to keep selling.
And well, Kardashians and Jenners are adding up to this whole thing right now, by "setting the trend". It looks like they're spreading a virus and a huge amount of girls, especially younger ones, are becoming clones of them. I'm really hoping that in the nearest future originality and uniqueness will become more valuable than that.
Also, sorry for a long rant.
I mean, that's a correct view for many "flaws", but there are certain beauty factors that are less socially and more biologically determined. As in, certain physical traits are linked to fertility, health, and reproductive fitness.
LINK:
"It was once widely believed that standards of beauty were arbitrarily variable. Recent research suggests, however, that people's views of facial attractiveness are remarkably consistent, regardless of race, nationality or age. Facial characteristics are known to influence human attractiveness judgements and evolutionary psychologists suggest that these characteristics all pertain to health, leading to the conclusion that humans have evolved to view certain bodily features as attractive because the features were displayed by healthy others"
But being pear shaped is not a flaw nor is it linked with poorer reproductive fitness, so from a "biology of beauty" standpoint it still is a-okay!
And the aforementioned beauty hypothesis also doesn't take into account any of the social or personal factors into who we each individually find attractive, it's looking at gross trends as a whole across cultures.Sorry to derail!
I mean, that's a correct view for many "flaws", but there are certain beauty factors that are less socially and more biologically determined. As in, certain physical traits are linked to fertility, health, and reproductive fitness.
LINK:
"It was once widely believed that standards of beauty were arbitrarily variable. Recent research suggests, however, that people's views of facial attractiveness are remarkably consistent, regardless of race, nationality or age. Facial characteristics are known to influence human attractiveness judgements and evolutionary psychologists suggest that these characteristics all pertain to health, leading to the conclusion that humans have evolved to view certain bodily features as attractive because the features were displayed by healthy others"
But being pear shaped is not a flaw nor is it linked with poorer reproductive fitness, so from a "biology of beauty" standpoint it still is a-okay!
Sorry to derail!
Not to be that person, but the abstract you linked admits their study methods are flawed and the article is solely about facial beauty. It has little to do with your point about being a pear shaped.
Yep! I was speaking more generally on the topic of beauty (as in, it's not all culturally derived definitions of beauty but some biological underpinnings for certain traits) - not specifically on body type/shapes.
In regards to what I did say on pear shapes, "but being pear shaped is not a flaw nor is it linked with poorer reproductive fitness, so from a "biology of beauty" standpoint it still is a-okay!" is a simple, factual remark: it's a a normal, healthy fat distribution pattern for women. So it's not "ugly" from the biology of beauty standpoint. Body type preference is way more derivative of sociocultural beliefs and values, definitely.
Basic points established:
- Certain traits are indeed valued or devalued because of society/culture labeling them as such
- Other traits are more likely determined by an innate preference due to evolutionary biology, in which reproductive fitness was linked to certain characteristics we view as attractive
- The body type in question, pear shape, is a normal, healthy body type many women have
- As pear shaped is normal and healthy, it shouldn't be "innately ugly"
I just wanted to expand on what @atmosphere said about social determinants of beauty. My expansion was tangential and I loosely tied it back to the pear shape discussion at the end, not making that the meat of the discussion.
Apologies for any confusion/being unclear!
All of the dislikes.
That's some of the worst shadow boxing I have ever seen
and those super pathetic "push ups" 
... I thought this was supposed to be about being strong? I'm confused. But the comments under the video restored my faith in humanity a bit.
All of the dislikes.
That's some of the worst shadow boxing I have ever seen
I'm confused. But the comments under the video restored my faith in humanity a bit.
Did you girls read the comments under Emily Ratajkowski's advent video? Also hilarious.
First one reads;
"Emily Ratajkowski continues her activism against sexism".
I think what happened is that at first she made an effort to be a true model when she was just starting out and was trying to prove herself, was accepted by the industry and became by all accounts successful, and has since become much more cocky and self assured. She no longer needs to conform, so she's not.
Haha I posted this already in”models next to people” Kendall’s arm compared to Kaia’s though
She’s becoming a reverse thinspiration for meHaha I posted this already in”models next to people” Kendall’s arm compared to Kaia’s though
Well I just read on yahoo that she’s the highest paid model of 2017. What has this world come to.wait, so is she retiring from modeling because WTF
Translation: the person Kendall paid to update her website has resigned and Kendall can't be bothered updating it herself