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Elsa said:
I liked this one.
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:grin: loving it!

Also:
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[loseit]Start_button describes the feelings of food addiction (reddit.com)

It looks like the people in /loseit have self-awareness.
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Yup. Thank god there are some fatties out there who are actually activelty trying to change and not just going OMG GENETICS I STARVE ALL DAY BUT AM STILL FAT.

Too bad most of them are still aboard the fatty4life train! More posts from /r/fatlogic:

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^ Hello there, self-entitled fucks. #fatprivilege

Tagged with "Thin privilege is putting coffee creamer on your cereal" on reddit/r/fatlogic:

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"Of course morbid obesity is genetic. It's not like anyone used to pay money to see it because it was so rare...wait... "

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So it's okay for you to hate short guys based on their appearance, but if males find you gross because of your fat appearance you should call the cops on them?:

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Pointing out how much calories oatmeal has is fat-shaming. Oy vey.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...sign-removed-twitter-complaint_n_3146847.html

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However, after Angyal tweeted at the company Tuesday telling them the sign was "fatshamey and gross" and asking if they wanted to be associated with disordered eating, Oatmeals NY responded:

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By eating eclairs apparently you're appropriating "Fat Culture"?

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Consequences of being fat are unfair, eh? Replace "fat" with "smokers" or "drug addicts" or "raging assholes" and maybe it will make more sense to you:

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"Woman gains 65 pounds after getting married, forces husband to get Viagra after he is no longer attracted to her.":

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Yay for this one:

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And this quote wins hands down:

"Of course there is thin privilege. Just like there is showers-every-day privilege or cleans-teeth privilege. People respond to you better when you look better."
 
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That oatmeal thing actually makes me angry....what the fuck. How is choosing low cal options disordered eating
 
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... alrighty then
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GOD THIS PISSES ME OFF SOOOOO MUCH!!!! Why do they even feel 'touched' by it? Obviously they have issues with their image so WHY NOT FUCKING DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? And also, shoot that person who came up with 'thin privilege.' I mean .. I was 90 kg and well .. I can say honestly that I was truly depressed. I was too embarrassed to go even outside on certain days. It DID feel like it was unfair that i was 'big boned' :facepalm: but I came to learn that I was faaar from being big boned. And trust me .. as an ex fat person .. they KNOW that they're pathetic. That's why she broke that CD in half and probably went to fill in her empty hole in her heart (or her stomach) after that with some of dem croissants.
 
Where's that chick's sense of integrity..she should pay the penalty for breaking the DVD-it's not Netflix's fault she's fat and insecure.
 
Allie said:
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Things I learned from this entry:
1. Size 8 women eat burgers and fries regularly, but shouldn't
2. This isn't fat shaming, though, because they are considered thin by fat people
3. Women need to fucking stop
4. Eating is fat women's "territory"
5. Skinny women eat 19 eclairs in one sitting regularly
6. Fat women never do
7. There is a fat culture that can be appropriated
8. Fat food can only be enjoyed by fat people
9. Fat food can only be enjoyed by people who are in pain because they are fat

I feel more cultured already :rolleyes:
 
Apple said:
Things I learned from this entry:
1. Size 8 women eat burgers and fries regularly, but shouldn't
2. This isn't fat shaming, though, because they are considered thin by fat people
3. Women need to fucking stop
4. Eating is fat women's "territory"
5. Skinny women eat 19 eclairs in one sitting regularly
6. Fat women never do
7. There is a fat culture that can be appropriated
8. Fat food can only be enjoyed by fat people
9. Fat food can only be enjoyed by people who are in pain because they are fat

I feel more cultured already :rolleyes:
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Well, I suppose if there is a fat culture, there must be a skinny culture. And thus, my retort:


STOP. WEARING. OUR. CLOTHES.

Can we quit it with size 12+ women squeezing into skinny jeans and joking about how good they look? Seriously can they just ARÊTE? Fat women need to get off our very chic territory. Nobody cares about how cute whatever they're wearing is because they always manage to ruin whatever outfit they feel entitled to put on with their FAT. Until WE are able to own 19 pairs of skinny jeans and not be judged for it, we don't want to see fat women doing it. Stop appropriating Skinny Culture and Skinny Clothes (they're called skinny jeans for a reason, you cows can have your muu-muus). Leave them to the people who understand them and look good in them and feel the PAIN behind having to work hard to look good so our beautiful clothes can be done justice in our beautiful bodies.

Filed under thin shaming, skinny culture, skinny clothes, skinny acceptance, cultural appropriation, social justice, fatty entitlement
 
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Apple said:
Things I learned from this entry:
1. Size 8 women eat burgers and fries regularly, but shouldn't
2. This isn't fat shaming, though, because they are considered thin by fat people
3. Women need to fucking stop
4. Eating is fat women's "territory"
5. Skinny women eat 19 eclairs in one sitting regularly
6. Fat women never do
7. There is a fat culture that can be appropriated
8. Fat food can only be enjoyed by fat people
9. Fat food can only be enjoyed by people who are in pain because they are fat

I feel more cultured already :rolleyes:
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10. It is okay to break things and report it being "damaged" because you're fat. Seriously, it's not your fault. Even though you broke it.
11. The world must cater to your needs because you're fat. You're "repressed". You deserve special treatment.
 
ZeroDiet said:
10. It is okay to break things and report it being "damaged" because you're fat. Seriously, it's not your fault. Even though you broke it.
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Reminds me of "fat" Gwyneth Paltrow breaking a chair at a restaurant in the movie "Shallow Hal".

Wow, imagine if that movie were to be premiered today instead of 13 years ago.
 
Golden ice said:
What is HAES by the way?
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Health At Every Size, aka "being fat doesn't mean I'm unhealthy because 99% of the medical studies that prove otherwise are bullshit written by fatshaming morons and don't you dare judge me, MY health isn't Your buisness". I think I've summed this up right :confused:

This doesn't make any sens. Even TiTP doesn't try to explain this fucked up logi when someone ask politely and makes a rude answer insulting the guy who've asked a legimate question.
 
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Whenever I read, "when I was trying to get thin and only eating 500 calories a day but it didn't work - that's just my genetics!" I want to call bullshit so hard. No, actually, you just can't count calories very well. There is no, no, NO way you can't lose weight at an obese BMI on 500 calories a day. No feasible way, sorry.

This rant from here http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html sums up so well why that's very nearly impossible:

People who will claim with their dying breath “I can’t lose weight.” or “I can’t gain weight.” can be shown to do so when their caloric intake and caloric output is strictly controlled (meaning in a metabolic ward where every meal is meticulously weighed and measured) to accomplish one or the other. Create a large enough caloric deficit, or a large enough caloric surplus, and something simply HAS to happen. Either metabolism adapts (see below) or bodyweight changes.

It might not be fun, it might not be sustainable, but it will happen. As a buddy of mine once asked: “Why don’t you ever see a fat person come out of a concentration camp?” But that’s essentially what a fat person claiming they can’t lose weight on 500 calories per day is suggesting can happen. Because in the face of low enough calories and sufficient activity, weight has to be lost. Or the person dies. Nothing else can happen. Yet folks seem intent on believing that somehow the basic laws of the universe apply to everyone but them.

It’s not uncommon to find individuals who will claim that “I don’t eat that much and I gain weight” or “I eat a ton and can’t gain weight.” which seems to put me in my place and prove me wrong. In research, there’s typically been two attitudes towards these types of statements. The first is that there is truly some metabolic/thermodynamic miracle occurring. The second is that people are just really bad at estimating their caloric intake and expenditure. Turns out that number two is what’s usually going on.

Invariably, when you get an honest assessment of the person’s food intake (just accept that it can be done right now), their estimates are way off from reality. Studies show that people may under (or overestimate) their true caloric intake by up to 50%. Basically, unless they’ve done it for a while, most people are simply horrible at estimating how much food they are actually eating. Same thing for exercise, people tend to vastly overestimate how many calories they’ve burned.

So when you ask them to compare their food intake to their energy expenditure, they’ll tend to say that they eat very little and burn very much, and be totally off of reality. So what they are expecting to happen to their weight isn’t the same as what’s going to happen to their weight (based on the realities of the energy balance equation).

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This is why, although it’s a huge pain in the ass (at least initially), meticulously tracking food intake for a few days (and by this I mean getting a food scale and measuring cups/spoons) can be exceedingly informative (or depressing depending on how you look at it). When people who swear up and down that they “Just don’t eat that much” sit down and track it, they invariably find that they are eating two to three times as much as they though. Without fail.

Anyhow, and putting it rather bluntly: if there were truly an exception to this simple thermodynamic rule, the government would need to study it because that person would be a living breathing fusion reactor, able to make calories out of thin air ; or able to burn them off to an unlimited degree.

The research, however, is very clear: not everybody has it as easy as some folks do. Some people’s bodies are, in fact, demonstrably more resistant to weight loss (or gain) than others. Not that they can’t lose (or gain) weight but it comes off or on more slowly. More accurately, their bodies fight back harder.

Researchers call these folks Diet Resistant and the reasons behind this resistance is just starting to be determined. It probably has to do with how these individuals brains perceive changes in caloric intake which determines how their brains react to those changes. Some people’s bodies simply increase metabolic rate more quickly (or drop it more quickly) in response to increased or decreased calories. You can see similar variations in terms of what’s lost during dieting; given the same diet and exercise program, some people will lose a lot more muscle than another.

And we all have that one friend who eats nothing but ice cream and soda and never gains a pound. Of course, when you look closely, you find that the person really isn’t eating as much as it looks like overall, or they are only eating that one big meal per day that you happened to see, or they are burning it off because they are constantly moving (in essence, they fidget the excess calories off), or they compensate the next day after eating a lot and eat very little so that overall they maintain their weight.

These people’s brains sense the caloric excess more readily and either blunt hunger harder and faster, or get the person to move more, to burn it off. The same thing happens in reverse, some people’s metabolic rates slow down faster when calories are restricted, or makes them move around less during the day so they burn fewer calories, making further fat loss a lot harder.

So there is no doubt that there are individual differences and efficiencies between people, that probably explains why you can find one person who reports near-magical results with nearly every diet out there: they happened to hit the one that just ‘fit’ their individual metabolism and chemistry. It would be silly to ignore all of that and I do hate being silly.

But that doesn’t change the fundamental rules of thermodynamics which apply to everybody and everything. Given 100 calories, the most you can store is 100 calories. Sure, one person may only store 75, while another stores all 100, but 100 is still the maximum. It’s a physiological impossibility to store more than you actually ate because you can’t make something out of nothing. There’s lots of things like this, that you simply can’t do. You can’t make gold out of lead, you can’t find an honest politician, and you can’t store 500 calories if you only ate 300.

So when a 300 pound individual, who probably has a maintenance intake of 4000+ calories, says that they gained weight on 1400 calories I have to be very leery of how true that is. Either they are that 1 in 100,000 person with a metabolic rate below 1400 at that bodyweight (who has never been found to exist in any study on the topic over a span of about 5+ decades), or they aren’t being accurate in how much food they are eating or how many calories they are burning each day. You can probably guess which one I think it is. And, so we’re clear, I’m not saying that they are deliberately lying, either, I want to make that very clear. They are just as bad as everybody else at estimating their caloric intake and expenditure. Which is apparently pretty bad.

Which is why you can’t magically gain weight on 1000 calories per day if your maintenance intake is 2000 calories per day. Either your body will mobilize stored fuels, or it will slow down metabolic rate to 1000 to put you back into balance (and no study has ever shown the latter to occur in the absence of rather massive weight loss). Something has to happen. But weight gain on sub-maintenance calories isn’t one of them.

It’s also why you can’t not gain weight on 3000 calories per day if your metabolic rate is only 2000 calories per day. Either you start storing fuel or your body is speeding up metabolic rate to compensate. Something has to happen.


Summing up:

You.

Are.

Not.

Different.
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I'm sorry fat person but genetics has nothing to do with you being fat! You are fat because your mom has a poor diet & lazy habits therefore you were raised to have poor diet & lazy habits. GOSH I seriously HATE when people pull out genetics as an excuse for everything because they are too lazy to take responsibility for themselves and make an effort to change. Even for things like HBP or high cholesterol..Well its genetic so I'm not even going to try to change my lifestyle (because I'm lazy) so I'll just take this pill! And I can keep eating like shit because I'm on a pill! Ugh.. Don't even get me started..
 
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