fashion & drugs

[sore]

i don't know if this topic is 'appropriate' (i know you're not allowed to talk about it at tfs), but i'm really curious to know how common drugs are in the industry. everybody seems to agree that drugs are 'provided' at every shoot etc., on the other hand you hardly ever get any evidence (obviously...), so i'm not sure if it's just an old prejudice.
also, coke is known to do wonders for your weight, what role do you think coke plays for a model's weight loss?
there are constant rumours surrounding natalia vodianova, abbey lee kershaw or freha beja erichsen, for example, and - of course - there's kate moss. do you know of any others who are publicly rumoured to do drugs?

[Nessie]

Good question, i do not have an answer for you but i'm very interested to see what the answers are.

[Scarlet]

Rumors (especially bad ones) spread very fast, and people often don´t verify their sources before sharing.
So I think it´s a quite reasonable move from TFS to keep this topic out.
Also, there are many models and other people (designers, photographers etc) known in the fashion scene on TFS, so imagine what damage a false rumor could possibly do to a model´s reputation and career.
I think it´s about the same here. Of course there are less models and influental people here than on TFS, but still enough to be cautious about it.

I don´t support people doing drugs, whatever their motivation is, but I don´t want to be involved in some gossip that could actually affect someone´s career.

[Skinny2012]

Rumors (especially bad ones) spread very fast, and people often don´t verify their sources before sharing.
So I think it´s a quite reasonable move from TFS to keep this topic out.
Also, there are many models and other people (designers, photographers etc) known in the fashion scene on TFS, so imagine what damage a false rumor could possibly do to a model´s reputation and career.
I think it´s about the same here. Of course there are less models and influental people here than on TFS, but still enough to be cautious about it.

I don´t support people doing drugs, whatever their motivation is, but I don´t want to be involved in some gossip that could actually affect someone´s career.

I agree 100%.

[No One]

In the VIP forums, the most common drugs are (in no order): adderall, coke, weed

Weed makes you get the munchies when you come down.
Coke is good for sex.

[Apple]

As usual, because I assume everyone walks around thinking about the smell of puppies and poops rainbows I had no idea about the role drugs played in the industry. They provide drugs at shoots? I'm sorry, what?

[sore]

leigh: i don't know if they do, but that's what somebody 'in the know' told me.
Fili:
i don't want to spread any rumours, i just wanted to know if the rumours you hear are true - generally speaking, although i know there's no such thing as 'THE' answer to this question. most of the members here don't know about it anyway, and those who do won't tell any names for obvious reasons, but it wasn't meant to be the purpose of this thread to point fingers at somebody.

also, i do understand why drug talk is not allowed at tfs, and i'm all against promoting drug abuse etc.

[Anonymous Bullcock]

Most common model drugs in my experience are alcohol and nicotine, but I suspect you don't mean those.

Speed is everywhere (usually Adderall.)

Coke and pot are common but recreationally.

Heroin is rare, but not unheard of. Usually kept much more private than other drugs (i.e. pot, Adderall, and coke tend to be much more "out in the open" - both figuratively and literally.)

The only drug I've ever supplied at a shoot is alcohol. (Although maybe pot once or twice.) Models have brought coke to shoots but it's uncommon. At parties I generally see booze, pot, and coke (in descending order of commonness.)

Ecstasy (MDMA) and other psychedelics (LSD and such) are around, but more common on the "artist" side (photographers, designers, etc.) than "talent" (models.) Usage is similar to other creative populations - used rarely/recreationally and generally with the appropriate levels of respect/reverence.

[Nessie]

Very interesting to know.
I do not support drugs other then booze, nicotine and my b/f does pot everyday but i do not. My b/f and me have experimented and him way more then me, but I'm done with that stage and i would beat my b/f if he ever went back to doing other then weed.

[No One]

Coke is amazing for your weight. and like my fellow VIP said, sex ;)
Pills/MDMA also make you completely lose your appetite too but only for partying- you seem crazy walking around on those during the day ;)
I'll quite often do MDMA instead of drinking loads of alcohol if i go to a party... no cals and you have a good time!
Weed is okay, recreationally, but like the others said your appetite goes insane on the comedown.
Speed is pretty good. like having a load of espressos without the mental shakes/sickness...

[dumbbrunette]

Most common model drugs in my experience are alcohol and nicotine, but I suspect you don't mean those.

Speed is everywhere (usually Adderall.)

Coke and pot are common but recreationally.

Heroin is rare, but not unheard of. Usually kept much more private than other drugs (i.e. pot, Adderall, and coke tend to be much more "out in the open" - both figuratively and literally.)

The only drug I've ever supplied at a shoot is alcohol. (Although maybe pot once or twice.) Models have brought coke to shoots but it's uncommon. At parties I generally see booze, pot, and coke (in descending order of commonness.)

Ecstasy (MDMA) and other psychedelics (LSD and such) are around, but more common on the "artist" side (photographers, designers, etc.) than "talent" (models.) Usage is similar to other creative populations - used rarely/recreationally and generally with the appropriate levels of respect/reverence.

This sounds pretty much like the rest of the population. Most common drugs I see at college parties: alcohol, pot, occasionally coke. I've known heroin addicts but its not considered acceptable. People do MDMA and psychedelics but not often. Everyone's taking adderall to get through exams and such.

It seems like the beautiful and fabulous aren't so different, after all.

[Phoebe]

Just out of curiosity, why is Adderall so popular? Don't worry, I'm not thinking of trying it, it's just that I've never heard of it before and I'm wondering why it's so popular in the industry.

[Skinny2012]

Just out of curiosity, why is Adderall so popular? Don't worry, I'm not thinking of trying it, it's just that I've never heard of it before and I'm wondering why it's so popular in the industry.

Adderall is an amphetamine used to treat ADD/ADHD.

Some of the side effects include loss of appetite and weight loss (particularly in adolescents).

[ExtraShot]

Just out of curiosity, why is Adderall so popular? Don't worry, I'm not thinking of trying it, it's just that I've never heard of it before and I'm wondering why it's so popular in the industry.

yeah, you have no appetite but you can concentrate really well

[Skinny2012]

Phoebe i just wanted to add that there are of course risks when you abuse adderall:

"Adderall can be habit-forming when used in higher doses than recommended by your healthcare provider or for extended periods of time. The consequences of Adderall abuse can be extremely dangerous, sometimes resulting in an irregular heartbeat, dangerously high body temperatures, and/or the potential for cardiovascular failure or seizures."

http://adhd.emedtv.com/adderall/adderall-abuse.html

[Anonymous Bullcock]

Phoebe i just wanted to add that there are of course risks when you abuse adderall:

"Adderall can be habit-forming when used in higher doses than recommended by your healthcare provider or for extended periods of time. The consequences of Adderall abuse can be extremely dangerous, sometimes resulting in an irregular heartbeat, dangerously high body temperatures, and/or the potential for cardiovascular failure or seizures."

http://adhd.emedtv.com/adderall/adderall-abuse.html

Agreed, but there are risks when you abuse anything. :)

[dumbbrunette]

Just out of curiosity, why is Adderall so popular? Don't worry, I'm not thinking of trying it, it's just that I've never heard of it before and I'm wondering why it's so popular in the industry.

It's great for killing your appetite. I used to take it for that and because I was pulling all-nighters studying. I lost 12 pounds in a month. Its the weirdest sensation. You'll want to eat, but as soon as you look at food it just isn't appealing. But its not good for you because it makes your heart beat really fast.

[dumbbrunette]

Phoebe i just wanted to add that there are of course risks when you abuse adderall:

"Adderall can be habit-forming when used in higher doses than recommended by your healthcare provider or for extended periods of time. The consequences of Adderall abuse can be extremely dangerous, sometimes resulting in an irregular heartbeat, dangerously high body temperatures, and/or the potential for cardiovascular failure or seizures."

http://adhd.emedtv.com/adderall/adderall-abuse.html

Definitely habit forming. Also coming down from it is awful. Its this horrible depressed, anxious feeling. And you can't sleep even though you're exhausted.

[No One]

Just out of curiosity, why is Adderall so popular? Don't worry, I'm not thinking of trying it, it's just that I've never heard of it before and I'm wondering why it's so popular in the industry.

You can concentrate/work a lot longer - get by on less sleep for longer periods of time.

You're hardly hungry at all.

Extremely safe if taken in proper doses.

[redbingsoo]

You can concentrate/work a lot longer - get by on less sleep for longer periods of time.

You're hardly hungry at all.

Extremely safe if taken in proper doses.

I have an adderall prescription and have a ton of it, but unfortunately the appetite suppressing effects have stopped and I feel bad if I take it these days... It's a bummer.

[Phoebe]

Skinny2012, thanks for the info :) I've heard of people abusing ADD meds before, there used to be this girl at my school who sold her meds to other people. Interesting to know now why people would want it.

[Isabel]

Definitely habit forming. Also coming down from it is awful. Its this horrible depressed, anxious feeling. And you can't sleep even though you're exhausted.

I used to have a prescription for it for my ADHD but stopped taking it because it is so habit forming - though I do occasionally take some XR ones that a friend gives out like candy and in my experience the XR >>> IR (but that may also be because the XR dosage I take is way higher than my IR prescrip ever was).

Also, if you drink a packet of Emergen-C or take a couple of those chewable Vit C tablets or drink some OJ while coming down you have no problems sleeping or the anxiousness. ;)

[SecretMelody17]

I've done ADD meds a few times for studying. What I took wasn't exactly Adderall, but something similar to it. I'll try to find the exact name of it but it was a while ago...

Anyway, it helped me concentrate and I found that I could stay up all night without feeling either tired/slow or jittery/anxious. I was very calm and clear-headed, like I was "in the zone".
Appetite-wise, I hardly had any for about three days after both times I took it.
The downside is that coming down from it the next day was terrible. I was an emotional wreck, super anxious and depressed and over-sensitive. I would burst into tears over something really small. :shrug:

[Ally]

I've done ADD meds a few times for studying. What I took wasn't exactly Adderall, but something similar to it. I'll try to find the exact name of it but it was a while ago...

Anyway, it helped me concentrate and I found that I could stay up all night without feeling either tired/slow or jittery/anxious. I was very calm and clear-headed, like I was "in the zone".
Appetite-wise, I hardly had any for about three days after both times I took it.
The downside is that coming down from it the next day was terrible. I was an emotional wreck, super anxious and depressed and over-sensitive. I would burst into tears over something really small. :shrug:

So if you'd need it, would you take some again? Or it's not worth it?

[No One]

I've done ADD meds a few times for studying. What I took wasn't exactly Adderall, but something similar to it. I'll try to find the exact name of it but it was a while ago...

Anyway, it helped me concentrate and I found that I could stay up all night without feeling either tired/slow or jittery/anxious. I was very calm and clear-headed, like I was "in the zone".
Appetite-wise, I hardly had any for about three days after both times I took it.
The downside is that coming down from it the next day was terrible. I was an emotional wreck, super anxious and depressed and over-sensitive. I would burst into tears over something really small. :shrug:

You took too much. :kiss:

[skinny4ever]

This aspect of the fashion world is so sad.

[Noodle12]

I've not tried coke, so I wouldn't know... but I'm surprised that no one mentioned that weed is good for sex too. VERY good. The appettite stimulation is a downer, but if you smoke it late in the evening, maybe you can fall asleep before it hits ;) After I smoke pot, I sleep HARD for like 10 hours. (just an FYI, though I am a fan, I rarely smoke it. Haven't in over 6 months)

[hana114]

This sounds pretty much like the rest of the population. Most common drugs I see at college parties: alcohol, pot, occasionally coke. I've known heroin addicts but its not considered acceptable. People do MDMA and psychedelics but not often. Everyone's taking adderall to get through exams and such.

It seems like the beautiful and fabulous aren't so different, after all.

I was going to post nearly the same thing. Cashed up kids at university that I know do coke regularly and are more often that not high on weed... Pills at festivals and mushrooms/acid on camping trips, drugs are waaaay more common that some people realise. Why would the fashion industry be any different?

[Daisy]

I've not tried coke, so I wouldn't know... but I'm surprised that no one mentioned that weed is good for sex too. VERY good.

oh yeah:cool:

[sore]

I was going to post nearly the same thing. Cashed up kids at university that I know do coke regularly and are more often that not high on weed... Pills at festivals and mushrooms/acid on camping trips, drugs are waaaay more common that some people realise. Why would the fashion industry be any different?

while i agree with you that doing drugs is more common than people realise, it is still not like your neighbour does coke every other day. it is most common in specific 'scenes', notably in physically and psychically demanding jobs or activities (includes everything from studying hard to working hard and partying hard). sure, there are cashed up kids who do drugs out of pure boredom and then there are party kids who do drugs at festivals and in clubs once in a while.
modelling, i figure, is one of the most demanding jobs; early call times, lots of jet lag, the pressure to be thin, fit and radiant looking all the time and so on. i wouldn't be surprised if the percentage of drug users was higher in the industry than in your local supermarket, and about as high as say in some economy branches etc. plus it helps to stay on track weightwise, so...

[Schmate]

I had a prescription for adderall last summer and it made me a psycho nutcase. During the day I felt like I was on cloud nine but then once 4 PM rolled around it was like the world sucked so badly and my anxiety soared. I think I was one of the few people who found myself gaining on it too because I didn't eat the whole day and then when my anxiety came on I used food to calm me down. No bueno. I like ecstasy.. but only a couple times a year :party:

[Schmate]

Pills/MDMA also make you completely lose your appetite too but only for partying- you seem crazy walking around on those during the day ;)
I'll quite often do MDMA instead of drinking loads of alcohol if i go to a party... no cals and you have a good time!

^This! Whoooo fun times (unless you get a bad pill.. but I try to stick to the pure stuff)

[fels]

In the uk coke is actually pretty common in middle class, middle aged people. Not everyone does it obviously, but everyone knows a few people who have it every day. Weirdly, it's usually the ones who are insanely health conscious when it comes to every other aspect of their lives.

[Allie]

In the uk coke is actually pretty common in middle class, middle aged people. Not everyone does it obviously, but everyone knows a few people who have it every day. Weirdly, it's usually the ones who are insanely health conscious when it comes to every other aspect of their lives.

Second this from my experiences. Coke is very common in the middle class. So is MDMA/ecstasy. I think it's easy to target the fashion industry and look at the "darkside" but really, that darkside is a facet that exists outside of the fashion industry as well. You could just as easily apply it to attorneys, or ad agencies, or whatever.

[RedGlitter]

the pressure to be thin, fit and radiant looking all the time and so on.

Wondering how looking fit and radiant works together with taking drugs on the long run. But I guess it usually works this way: As long as you are young enough to model, the drugs will make you feel fit and you will stay thin. And when you start looking like crap cause you took too much, your career is over and your pictures will end up over here and people will say that you should stop modelling.

I´m not an amphetamine person, I´m more for the stuff that takes you into the other direction. Everybody´s different, some need to boost themselves up, some need to make themselves calm down.

I´m not taking any drugs anymore and I hope it stays that way. But I´m not judgemental, if people need drugs..well...whatever floats their boat. Its not that that I couldn´t understand what leads us there, but a good solution looks different I think.

There are two ways mainly: You stop cause you realize that it starts to destroy you one day or you stop cause it has destroyed you and you´re sick or even dead.

In my opinion, there are not so many people who are able to keep the balance and never take too much too often. Its seldom. Everbody who thinks about doing drugs should keep that in mind. You find out that you have an addictive personality when its already a bit late usually and its not always an easy way to get out of there again. But every adult should be able to make that decision and live with the consequences in the end I guess.

Nevertheless I would like to say for all who never took drugs: Best thing would be to leave it like that. Cause if you once tried, you´ll never forget and the thought of doing it again is much closer to you than it would be when you have no idea what drugs can do for you. Maybe its different for everyone, but thats my experience. I don´t think its worth it. Sooner or later in your live it will cause problems in one way or another and the range of problems is big..little problems to really huge problems.

[icehalo]

I've never taken drugs (other than antibiotics for illness or something, of course), and I'm obviously not in the fashion industry so I can't comment on that...

But I can say that, just a few weeks ago, one of my boyfriend's friends died from drugs. He and his wife did drugs often. His wife overdosed and died one night, so he followed her. They left behind a 3-month-old baby girl. They had just gotten married.

So, I just hope all who take drugs will be more careful... it was shocking and devastating. Now their innocent daughter will never know her parents.

[Celia]

I've never taken drugs (other than antibiotics for illness or something, of course), and I'm obviously not in the fashion industry so I can't comment on that...

But I can say that, just a few weeks ago, one of my boyfriend's friends died from drugs. He and his wife did drugs often. His wife overdosed and died one night, so he followed her. They left behind a 3-month-old baby girl. They had just gotten married.

So, I just hope all who take drugs will be more careful... it was shocking and devastating. Now their innocent daughter will never know her parents.

Oh my, thats so horrible :shock:

[Anonymous Bullcock]

As tragic and sad as many cautionary drug tales are, they're often overly simplistic. Usually, the drugs in the story are illicit ones, and we're supposed to forget that:

1. Most illicit drugs are far less dangerous than the most commonly-abused legal drugs (alcohol, nicotine, oxycodone, valium, etc.)

2. Most illicit drugs are dangerous because of the law, not because of the drug.

For example - do you know why marijuana is so dangerous in many places? Because if you get caught with it, you'll go to jail, you'll lose your job, you'll lose your eligibility for student loans, etc...

Another example - you know how sometimes you hear about people getting "bad pills" at raves, clubs, etc.? Well, MDMA (ecstasy) is a really, really safe drug. But it's also really expensive, so people cut it (or replace it entirely) with a lot of cheap shit that isn't very safe at all.

Anyway, most tragic drug stories I hear are about people falling victim to the prohibition regime, not the drugs themselves.

I mean, if having orange juice was a capital crime, do you know how dangerous it would be?

Lots of shit - legal and illegal - is dangerous when abused. Educate yourself, moderate, and be careful. When in doubt, don't.

:kiss:

[antelope]

As tragic and sad as many cautionary drug tales are, they're often overly simplistic. Usually, the drugs in the story are illicit ones, and we're supposed to forget that:

1. Most illicit drugs are far less dangerous than the most commonly-abused legal drugs (alcohol, nicotine, oxycodone, valium, etc.)

2. Most illicit drugs are dangerous because of the law, not because of the drug.

For example - do you know why marijuana is so dangerous in many places? Because if you get caught with it, you'll go to jail, you'll lose your job, you'll lose your eligibility for student loans, etc...

Another example - you know how sometimes you hear about people getting "bad pills" at raves, clubs, etc.? Well, MDMA (ecstasy) is a really, really safe drug. But it's also really expensive, so people cut it (or replace it entirely) with a lot of cheap shit that isn't very safe at all.

Anyway, most tragic drug stories I hear are about people falling victim to the prohibition regime, not the drugs themselves.

I mean, if having orange juice was a capital crime, do you know how dangerous it would be?

Lots of shit - legal and illegal - is dangerous when abused. Educate yourself, moderate, and be careful. When in doubt, don't.

:kiss:

i agree with this whole-heartedly. many legal drugs are much more harmful, then say weed for instance. a lot of people get so offended by marijuana and still believe a lot of the propaganda the government spews out... its bull really.. but like you said... just be careful not to get caught and use in moderation.

[RedGlitter]

I definately agree that weed is like a nice herbal tea compared to oxycodone..damn it, its hilarious that you can´t buy weed but your doctor gives you oxy. When I stopped smoking weed I felt totally normal, no need to say that you feel like crap when you stop taking something like oxycodone, cause your body is addicted, you suffer from withdrawal symptoms. Never heard that about people who smoke weed. I only heard about mental issues in combination with weed.

Should add that when I spoke of drugs in my posting, I included ALL things you can have legally, they can be much worse.

[Schmate]

As tragic and sad as many cautionary drug tales are, they're often overly simplistic. Usually, the drugs in the story are illicit ones, and we're supposed to forget that:

1. Most illicit drugs are far less dangerous than the most commonly-abused legal drugs (alcohol, nicotine, oxycodone, valium, etc.)

2. Most illicit drugs are dangerous because of the law, not because of the drug.

For example - do you know why marijuana is so dangerous in many places? Because if you get caught with it, you'll go to jail, you'll lose your job, you'll lose your eligibility for student loans, etc...

Another example - you know how sometimes you hear about people getting "bad pills" at raves, clubs, etc.? Well, MDMA (ecstasy) is a really, really safe drug. But it's also really expensive, so people cut it (or replace it entirely) with a lot of cheap shit that isn't very safe at all.

Anyway, most tragic drug stories I hear are about people falling victim to the prohibition regime, not the drugs themselves.

I mean, if having orange juice was a capital crime, do you know how dangerous it would be?

Lots of shit - legal and illegal - is dangerous when abused. Educate yourself, moderate, and be careful. When in doubt, don't.

:kiss:

Agreed. Reminds me of when I was dating a narcotics addict and he had gallbladder surgery (a very common and relatively easily to recover from surgery) and the doctor prescribed him 550 mg of oxycontin. Was there a single mention of his addiction of painkillers? Nope.

[skinny4ever]

You can't discuss anything weight related on TFS.

[RedGlitter]

Agreed. Reminds me of when I was dating a narcotics addict and he had gallbladder surgery (a very common and relatively easily to recover from surgery) and the doctor prescribed him 550 mg of oxycontin. Was there a single mention of his addiction of painkillers? Nope.

Thats exactly the point and also what annoys me the most. I also know several narcotics addicts and its not seldom that those people say stuff like "Weed is a bad drug, it should stay illegal" while they drop narcotics like candy and don´t even realize that they are addicted. Its double moral standard. I don´t get it.

[SecretMelody17]

So if you'd need it, would you take some again? Or it's not worth it?

Yes I would, but only if I were REALLY crunched to meet a deadline. The meds helped me focus on my work rather than obssess counterproductively about the work I still have left or how tired I am, etc. ect. Although coming down from it was really stressful, it was the lesser of two evils, so to speak.
I also think that the miserable next-day experience could be avoided relatively easily. I still had a lot to do when I was coming down last time, which was an emotinally unstable combination.
If I did it again, I'd definitely make sure that I had the day after compeletly free to relax at home and recover wthout anything to stress me out.

[skinny4life]

Whoa what? they provide drugs? what if they fall off the runway or something...

[No One]

Whoa what? they provide drugs? what if they fall off the runway or something...

...What?

[Skinny2012]

Whoa what? they provide drugs? what if they fall off the runway or something...

I don't think so. :lol:

[Noodle12]

Oxycodone = hillbilly heroin. Pain Pills are such a huge problem in the US, especially in my area. Pain meds/opiates are pretty much the worst when it comes to ODing. You just stop breathing.

And high five to AB for his post about legal drugs being just as bad and sometimes worst than the illicit drugs. It's Effed up but it's true.

[leila]

Oxycodone = hillbilly heroin. Pain Pills are such a huge problem in the US, especially in my area. Pain meds/opiates are pretty much the worst when it comes to ODing. You just stop breathing.

And high five to AB for his post about legal drugs being just as bad and sometimes worst than the illicit drugs. It's Effed up but it's true.

This. the double standard is out of control.

[Silent Night]

I guess one difference between legal and illegal is that if you take something legal as prescribed and don't abuse it, it's not going to kill you. But one bad batch of something illicit can. Like, I've taken morphene in hospital and I didn't die, but I've known a couple of people die of dodgy skag.

On the whole this makes me support legalisation, because dirty drugs kill a lot of people or make them sick, and legal drugs could be controlled for adulteration. I can say that the great majority of people I know do or have done drugs, and the fact it was illegal did not put them off, so I don't believe prohibition is particularly effective. Making drugs illegal just makes them a far riskier thing to do, and it means that people who get into trouble wait until it's too late to get help, because they're scared of getting involved with the law, losing their jobs and the social reaction generally. It was seeing the consequences of taking too much that made me decide it wasn't good for me any more, as well as the fact that I'm pretty invested in other things now that don't mix well with being out of it - nothing to do with wanting to obey the law. In fact I know plenty of (idiotic) people who won't take an asprin when they have a headache because they 'don't like putting chemicals in their body', but are perfectly willing to entrust their neurochemistry to some guy they met in a club if they feel like getting high. :facepalm:

Anyway, by the sounds of it fashion has the same attitude to drugs as any group with money, stress and a lot of young folk, and which puts a lot of importance on creativity and social connections.

[Jasmine]

Oxycodone = hillbilly heroin. Pain Pills are such a huge problem in the US, especially in my area. Pain meds/opiates are pretty much the worst when it comes to ODing. You just stop breathing.

And high five to AB for his post about legal drugs being just as bad and sometimes worst than the illicit drugs. It's Effed up but it's true.

Kind of funny, I consider myself to be an addictive personality, but I HATE pain pills. I took them for surgery recovery, and :puke:

[Isabel]

Kind of funny, I consider myself to be an addictive personality, but I HATE pain pills. I took them for surgery recovery, and :puke:

Same. The thing, however, is that just because you may be an addictive personality doesn't mean that you will automatically become addicted to addictive things (and just so we are clear I need to use the word addiction just one more time to set a world record for a sentence :p)

[Butternut]

Coke is amazing for your weight. and like my fellow VIP said, sex ;)
Pills/MDMA also make you completely lose your appetite too but only for partying- you seem crazy walking around on those during the day ;)
I'll quite often do MDMA instead of drinking loads of alcohol if i go to a party... no cals and you have a good time!
Weed is okay, recreationally, but like the others said your appetite goes insane on the comedown.
Speed is pretty good. like having a load of espressos without the mental shakes/sickness...

Is getting addicted as easy as people say?

[Silent Night]

Is getting addicted as easy as people say?

Only one way to find out :grin:

[Butternut]

Only one way to find out :grin:

:lol:

[MCgirl]

Only one way to find out :grin:

:highfive:

Butternut- it depends on a person, we're all different. I don't get addicted to anything, but if you suspect that you might have an addictive personality, it's better not to risk and just stay clear of all drugs/cigarettes/etc :)

[vlada]

Coke is amazing for your weight. and like my fellow VIP said, sex ;)

Out of curiosity, how does coke work for weight loss? I heard that the effects of each line don't last very long, so does that mean that you have to do lines all day long if you're doing it to stay thin? And does it work by speeding up your metabolism, or by suppressing your appetite?

I'm not asking for any personal reasons whatsoever...I'm just curious about how it works :nervous:

[eyelinerandspraypaint]

Out of curiosity, how does coke work for weight loss? I heard that the effects of each line don't last very long, so does that mean that you have to do lines all day long if you're doing it to stay thin? And does it work by speeding up your metabolism, or by suppressing your appetite?

I'm not asking for any personal reasons whatsoever...I'm just curious about how it works :nervous:

In my experience, it depends on the quality of the drug. The coke where I live is cut so much that the effect is minimal and short lived. I've used it in wealthier circles in London where it was a lot better. I used to use speed (don't use anything now as it didn't work out well for me personally) and that completely took away my appetite and I was very, very active so consequently constantly burning. Unfortunately, this as a benefit was totally outweighed by the hideous comedown that I always ended up with.

Personally, me and drugs don't go but I take no issue with anyone who uses them, providing they're mindful of potential consequences. If used sensibly and safely, why not.

I've never worked in a field as demanding as fashion but I understand from my sister who interned for a big, big London designer, drugs where everywhere in the women's design department - not so much about weight but more to sustain incredibly long and busy working hours on minimal sleep.